Issues of Nationalism

By Scott Webster
Nov 21, 2013

Comments

Jeremiah Rugunay | Kenya | December 19, 2013

Thank you sir. Listening to you here brings to mind the apostle Paul who had to rise above his Jewish nationalism; which he’d so powerfully identified with, before encountering Christ. This video sheds more light on Rev.5:9-10 where God says He has purchased us from every tribe, language, nation and tongue. Therefore, though I live in Kenya, I live as a citizen of the Kingdom of God to which I now belong.
Thank you.

Shem Ramjohn | Trinidad and Tobago | December 19, 2013

Yes

Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro | Fiji | December 19, 2013

This is a fantastic interview. I can relate to Scott Webster’s experiences as I had to struggle and journey out of nationalistic platforms.

Growing up in a little country of Fiji which is riddled with frequent coup de’etats and formative experiences obscured by world view of God. It led me to be incapable of hearing accurately. It took several years to work through this, your bulletins helped me over the years coupled with the video on the Sovereignty of God helped to address incorrect platforms on the inside of me. The manifestation of my incorrect view led me to be an activist against usurpers but when God was dealing with me, I had to look through his eyes and believe God for a higher purpose. Today, I advise the very same people in the area of cyber security, in the area of policy and law. If I were still steeped in my wrong world view, I would not be able to relate. The bottom line is coming to God and letting him define me.

In the season, we are in, it is even more necessary to acutely hear God in terms of movements in and amongst the nations and so there is no space nor room for contamination.

SOLOMON KINUTHIA | Kenya | December 24, 2013

Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sang a new song:“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain,and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation. 10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,and they will reign on the earth.” NIV

Its very true that we were purchased from every tribe and nation. We were purchased from the spirit of nationalism which often skews our view of God in the nations. As you described the nationalism in America it makes me aware of the nationalism that exists in the african context that was birthed from years of oppression in colonialism and neo colonial forces. This session has made me even more aware of the dangers of nationalism in my own context as a Kenyan that can corrupt my engagement with the purposes of the Lord. The only accurate platform to stand upon to engage Gods purposes is that of the Kingdom of God. Thanks.

Steve Ramesar | Trinidad and Tobago | December 28, 2013

I think it is very important that we whom GOD has chosen do not get caught up in national issues to the extent that it has a hold on anybody.
It reminds me of the issue that was mentioned by Dr.Woodroffe that when babylon / the world system is falling anything such a person will fall with it.
I also believe that religion and the issues of prosperity can cause lack of sight and the inaccurate speakings that will eventually become dimensions of false hope.
Where your treasures are there your heart will be also.

Maria Kehr | United Kingdom | January 1, 2014

I really enjoyed watching this. Very precious and beautiful to see how God is shaping his people. I really appreciate the openess with which Scott and Steve discuss their processes.
Like Scott and Solomon said, this process of reckoning that there are mindsets in me that have been shaped by the culture I grew up in and that God is higher than that, is so necessary for every person in the Kingdom of God regardless of their nationality.
I am German and it’s interesting because Germans like to distance themselves very strongly from any sense of nationalism due to our history but the reality is that even inside of that Satan can build a stronghold and hinder people from fully living inside of God’s purposes, for example a fear of strong leadership and submitting to leaders. And there are other attitudes and mindsets that were shaped in me by the culture I grew up in and you won’t realise that until you - as Scott said - step outside of that compound and allow God to humble you and teach your heart. For me that is definitely still an ongoing process.
The scripture that came to mind was Eph 2:14, 19-20: “For Christ himself has brought peace to us. He united Jews and Gentiles into one people when, in his own body on the cross, he broke down the wall of hostility that separated us. (...) So now you Gentiles are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of God’s holy people. You are members of God’s family. Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself.”
I am not German first and foremost - even though I have a strong heart connection to Germany, I am a citizen of the Kingdom of God.

Zamo Ntuli | South Africa | March 21, 2014

Today is my Birthday & I decided to take some time to re-visit these amazing Interviews. Thanks again. I am so gratefult to be living inside of a day where great Prophets & Leaders of the Faith such as yourselves live a life of example before us! So much has happened in my own “simple” life that I can identify with in this Interview & I have reconciled with the proper approach of redefining my starting context, such as you outline. I am gradually realizing God’s Sovereignty that lies in my own “South African, Durban-city, Zulu woman” context, maturing within a post-Madiba Era…a context that should never overshadow my supreme Kingdom origin that is found in Christ, to which all of the above links but submitts. Finding that purified connection is what strikes me in this Interview & in your life…because without that purity, we can never be accurately usable for Kingdom Purpose. That is truly inspiring. This is an amazing Interview!

Connor Kellerman | New Zealand | January 28, 2015

Thanks Scott, this is a very impactful video. This whole issue of nationalism is a barrier for a lot of saints, and that which all those who are authentic in God have to process through. I think of the stark examples of Paul and Peter in the New Testament, not to mention the failure of Jonah, who begrudgingly delivered the word of hope and redemption to the people of Ninevah.

To hear how you as a top-level leader in the Congress have tracked in this area is truly powerful, and I know that in the spirit it has certified your declaration of this word both in speaking and “The Arc of Empires.” I cannot think past Isaiah 2, of the Lord’s House lifted up in the last days, as we declare so often in the Congress, and how a signature fulfillment of this prophecy is that “all nations shall flow to it.” God is smashing carnal nationalism in this day, as He creates one beautiful nation in the earth established in the values and culture of the Kingdom.

Once again, thank you for the videos. May God bless the people with knowledge and truth through these

Connor

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